I recently finished a podcast on Viktor Orbán’s Hungary and the “illiberal democracy” he has created. The country is illiberal because the government openly favors, in both its rhetoric and policies, one set of beliefs at the expense of others. The country is a democracy because Hungary’s direction under Orbán is arguably a reflection of the will of the people. But can a country that does not support basic rights and liberties be a democracy? And why do many American religious conservatives admire Orbán, despite his authoritarian tendencies? I interviewed Andras Petho and Rod Dreher to help me find answers. Thanks to The Religion, Race, and Democracy Lab at UVA for production support and to the Luce/ACLS Program in Religion, Journalism & International Affairs for funding.